nicc
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Post by nicc on Nov 11, 2019 11:50:00 GMT
Hey, After years of receiving imported guppies we had a lot of outbreaks of Columnaris. It’s also known as white saddle back disease as it can leave a distinct mark on the fishes backs (saddle). I usually ran a course of antibiotics, quarantined the infected tank and moved advanced stage fish to a treatment tank. The morality rates were through the roof! We enquired with the importer over east but they didn’t share any information about treatment or cure just credited the order. A couple times included in the order was bottles of pure malachite green or methylene blue to help. Another time condi’s crystals (Potassium permanganate)was used as a bath/dip with minimal success. Has anyone had success treating columnaris? Any medications work that can’t be found “off the shelf”?  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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jerrytheplater
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Post by jerrytheplater on Dec 1, 2019 2:24:58 GMT
I treated for this disease many years ago with hobby available antibiotics. Don't remember what I used, but the label said it was good for Columnaris. I did a Google search: fishlab.com/columnaris/ He recommends both nitrofurazone and kanamycin and gives the dosage. Reduce tank temp to below 75F to slow down the growth of this bacteria. |
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nicc
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Post by nicc on Dec 1, 2019 3:44:39 GMT
I actually had the representative from API mention their Furan-2 nitrofurazone product sold in the USA. I asked him to bring on his next visit some samples but he didn’t want to mess with Aussie customs 😂
It’s unfortunate we can’t easily access these medications here. One company in Australia released the tetra medication lines without registration, then a day later recalled. The rep said it’s millions of dollars to register a $30 product so they recalled them all.
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jerrytheplater
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Post by jerrytheplater on Dec 2, 2019 22:41:20 GMT
Sorry to hear your problems with medicines. It is the same way with beekeeping though. It costs too much to register a medicine for use on bee's with the FDA and EPA. The beekeeping hobby/industry is too small.
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nicc
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Post by nicc on Dec 2, 2019 23:33:48 GMT
That’s disheartening too because it’s the bee hobbyists who would be using those medications to save their colonies. Yet I’m sure the EPA probably says that registration of products is to protect bees.
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jerrytheplater
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Post by jerrytheplater on Dec 4, 2019 1:57:56 GMT
If a beekeeper registers his/her hives with the State Apiarist, his Apiary goes on a list that all registered pesticide applicators must use in order to notify beekeepers of an upcoming pesticide application within three miles of the Apiary. I did receive a notice once from a Lawn company that was going to apply near me. My only recourse would have been to move the hives before application. Not easily done.
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nicc
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Post by nicc on Dec 5, 2019 8:13:02 GMT
I could only imagine the nightmare of moving hives. Can bees abandon hives if they are moved? Or not as easy as that?
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jerrytheplater
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Post by jerrytheplater on Dec 6, 2019 3:46:20 GMT
It is actually fairly easy to move a hive. I've done it more than a few times.
1 Staple the hive together so it doesn't slide apart when moving. Do this days before you move.
2 Wait till well after dark. Close off hive entrance with piece of wood that blocks entire entrance.
3 Get help to pick up the hive and move into your truck.
4 Drive more than three miles away so the bees don't recognize any landmarks. Obviously you have decided before hand where you are taking your hive.
5 Unload hive and set level in place.
6 Remove wood block.
7 All done.
Bees will leave the hive in AM and notice immediately they are in a new location. They will fly in circles around the hive getting oriented. Then they will go out and search for food. As long as you are more than three miles away, you are fine. If they know landmarks, they will return to the location of the hive the day before.
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just say hello or introduce yourself as a start. Start a new thread for fish your keeping, talk about products you use anything:) 